[Twisted-Python] logging
Chaz.
eprparadocs at gmail.com
Wed Aug 2 08:16:39 MDT 2006
Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:36:29 -0400, glyph at divmod.com wrote:
>>
>> My long-term vision for log events is for every log message in Twisted
>> to eventually go from looking like this:
>>
>> log.msg("did some stuff %s %r" % (a, b))
>>
>> to looking like this:
>>
>> log.msg(interface=IDidSomeStuff,
>> format="did some stuff %(stuff)s %(morestuff)r",
>> stuff=stuff,
>> morestuff=morestuff))
>>
>
> There's nothing preventing anyone from using twisted.python.log like this
> right now. The implementation could be adjusted to provide better
> performance for this case but that's hardly a blocking issue preventing
> anyone from doing creative things with logging.
>
> As you mentioned, Allen has effectively used it this way.
>
> I think the real reason we don't see this usage more is that it is pretty
> advanced and most people *do* just want debug spew. You have to get quite
> a ways into the development of a library or application before you start
> worrying about the things this functionality can help you with.
>
> Oh, and I still think the format argument is redundant and stupid :)
>
> Jean-Paul
>
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I have a few questions about all this particularly since my application
requires at least two different logs in the normal case and three in the
debugging case (after all I don't want to mix debugging information with
all the rest of the logs).
Why is the format "redundant and stupid"? Is it available someplace
else? If so, I would love to know so that I could remove it from my usage.
In regards to 'interface' above is that how I would switch between
different loggers?
Finally if I do all this why do I need t.p.l at all? I might as well
just implement log.msg() myself. I could keep t.p.l for the debugging
case and use my specialized code for the other two. Am I missing something?
Peace,
Chaz.
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